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Mark Crofton

Yeah, Jason, I doubt they overpaid. And I would imagine that with a company with this amount of revenue the financial "analysis" was pretty simple. My point was more around noting that there are financial benefits to purchasing a 3rd party ISV instead of just having them as a partner (especially if SFdC believes it can increase sales by employing its own field, marketing etc).

Jason Wood

I'm going to assume that SfDC isn't discounting Kieden's pricing sheet too much in the initial going. If you take that at face value, this is a situation whereby Kieden was doing very minimal revenue. According to published reports, Kieden had 45 customers. Even if you assume they were getting $300 per organization per month (I would contend they discounted that to initial clients for references and building a base), you're talking about $162,000 in annualized subscription revenue. Even if they were charging a ton more, even 10x more, you're talking about a $1.6mm company. Given SfDC's public market valuation (well north of 25x FCF based on current consensus); there's almost no Earthly way SfDC "overpaid" for this company at least in terms of justifying it on their current valuation as a publicly traded equity.

Mark Crofton

Rick, I think there are potentially advantages to purchases like this: 1) Financial - you would imagine that SFdC would have done a valuation based on future earnings/cash flows that led to a purchase price that makes financial sense (i.e. is value creating to the shareholder). Afterall they now get to recognize the $300/mth in revenue whereas before they didn't get a dime when Kieden sold its product 2) More seamsless integration of functionality into core CRM product. Many AppExchange products are (or appear to be given use of SFdC UI) fairly well integrated. But now they have the opportunity to actually integrate the Kieden functionality into the core CRM product. Related to this is that SFdC can now determine the future product direction whereas before they could have merely influenced it.

I think your question is a valid one and I'm not sure that in the case of this acquisition the potential advantages were worth the purchase price(not sure they weren't either). But I imagine there are acquisitions in which they would be.

Rick

This deal is interesting on a couple of levels. First of all, this seems a little further afield from traditional enterprise applications. Secondly, if the ecosystem is developed already, what advantage does sfdc have in buying them? Is it a software delivery platform, or an application consolidation strategy. I continue to be impressed with the software ecosystem that sfdc has developed, but I believe the brass ring is when industrial strength applications are delivered through sfdc. By the way, I love what you guys are doing - I'm an equity analyst with Morningstar (rick-dot-summer-at-morningstar-dot-com) and love participating in the dialogue.

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